Comments on: I’ve Said My Peace and Counted to Three http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/ no, really, there are some comics you really should read Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:25:00 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Nyarlo.net » Blog Archive » OH FUCK YES http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-172629 Nyarlo.net » Blog Archive » OH FUCK YES Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:16:45 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-172629 [...] one more day was the awful storyline. depending on who you ask, brand new day is off to a good [...] [...] one more day was the awful storyline. depending on who you ask, brand new day is off to a good [...]

]]> By: Nick http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-170797 Nick Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:06:32 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-170797 How it probably went. <b>Joe Q:</b> Hey Dan, we're gonna take you off of She-Hulk <b>Dan Slott:</b> WHAT!!! BUT ITS SELLING WELL! <b>Joe Q:</b> We want you on Spider-Man <b>Dan Slott:</b> ITS NOT FAIR I...wait what? Are you serious? <b>Joe Q:</b> Yep <b>Dan Slott:</b> Wow thanks man. <b>Joe Q:</b> Yeah you'll have free reign *says under breath* after I undo Pete and MJs wedding in a deal with Mephisto to save Aunt May's life <b>Dan Slott:</b> What was that last part? <b>Joe Q:</b> Um....BYE *runs away* Yeah, I feel for Slott, dude has got a rough journey ahead of him. How it probably went.

Joe Q: Hey Dan, we’re gonna take you off of She-Hulk

Dan Slott: WHAT!!! BUT ITS SELLING WELL!

Joe Q: We want you on Spider-Man

Dan Slott: ITS NOT FAIR I…wait what? Are you serious?

Joe Q: Yep

Dan Slott: Wow thanks man.

Joe Q: Yeah you’ll have free reign *says under breath* after I undo Pete and MJs wedding in a deal with Mephisto to save Aunt May’s life

Dan Slott: What was that last part?

Joe Q: Um….BYE *runs away*

Yeah, I feel for Slott, dude has got a rough journey ahead of him.

]]> By: Julio Dvulture http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-170646 Julio Dvulture Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:37:19 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-170646 You see, but JMS didn't want to have Gwen with Osborn. That was Quesada. Sure maybe Gwen and Peter kids could be just as bad, but at least wasn't creepy. I liked the mythological stuff. At least was well written, better than a lot that followed. Truth be told, I could even stomach a ill-planned retcon envolving but the Devil and one of the most moral heroes of the Marvel U. What I can't stand at all is the smugness of Quesada. Every interview he gives, is like he is flipping the bird to the fans and saying: I did because I can and you can't, so Bah!" Seriously, Quesada has a pre-schooler mentality. Is like he is one these embarassing fanboys that troll on forums, except that is really worse because A) he has real power concerning comics (unlike any internet troll) and B) he does boneheaded editorial direction after another and the books keep selling. Is this karma? So yeah, I feel sorry for Dan Slott or Guggenheim. They didn't nothing wrong. But I hope the 3x a month Spider-man tanks and tanks hard. Because otherwise, this will become a corporative culture (if isn't yet) and no editor should have such arrogance or be allowed such open disregard for the consumer base. You see, but JMS didn’t want to have Gwen with Osborn. That was Quesada. Sure maybe Gwen and Peter kids could be just as bad, but at least wasn’t creepy. I liked the mythological stuff. At least was well written, better than a lot that followed. Truth be told, I could even stomach a ill-planned retcon envolving but the Devil and one of the most moral heroes of the Marvel U. What I can’t stand at all is the smugness of Quesada. Every interview he gives, is like he is flipping the bird to the fans and saying: I did because I can and you can’t, so Bah!”
Seriously, Quesada has a pre-schooler mentality. Is like he is one these embarassing fanboys that troll on forums, except that is really worse because A) he has real power concerning comics (unlike any internet troll) and B) he does boneheaded editorial direction after another and the books keep selling. Is this karma?

So yeah, I feel sorry for Dan Slott or Guggenheim. They didn’t nothing wrong. But I hope the 3x a month Spider-man tanks and tanks hard. Because otherwise, this will become a corporative culture (if isn’t yet) and no editor should have such arrogance or be allowed such open disregard for the consumer base.

]]> By: admin http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-170372 admin Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:20:20 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-170372 I wish that was the case, Fred, but unfortunately the Spider-Man I've been dying to get my hands on, the everyman with the moral compass and heart who swings into action, has to come out of a rather crappy story and instead of people focusing on the positive change that's coming, we're focusing on the negative. Slott, Gale, Guggenheim and Wells are going to take the brunt of all this mess and they had nothing to do with what came before them. It's a lousy deal. I wish that was the case, Fred, but unfortunately the Spider-Man I’ve been dying to get my hands on, the everyman with the moral compass and heart who swings into action, has to come out of a rather crappy story and instead of people focusing on the positive change that’s coming, we’re focusing on the negative. Slott, Gale, Guggenheim and Wells are going to take the brunt of all this mess and they had nothing to do with what came before them. It’s a lousy deal.

]]> By: Gyuss Baaltar http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-170309 Gyuss Baaltar Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:31:06 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-170309 I can't wait for Dan Slott. He wrote the three best Spidey stories of the last year with the free comic day one-shot and Peter Parker's awesome guest appearances in Avengers Initiative. I can’t wait for Dan Slott. He wrote the three best Spidey stories of the last year with the free comic day one-shot and Peter Parker’s awesome guest appearances in Avengers Initiative.

]]> By: Fred http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/comment-page-1/#comment-170297 Fred Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:07:22 +0000 http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2008/01/04/ive-said-my-peace-and-counted-to-three/#comment-170297 It has nothing to do with the new guys coming in, its has to do with the horrible raw deal that Joe Quesada gave to the long time fans and their favorite character. Speaking as a fan who has collected Spider-Man for about 25 years, what Quesada did was not only a slap in the face to long time readers but disgraceful as well to a well beloved character who emotionally blackmailed his wife and makes a deal with the devil because he's too much coward to face his responsibility and move forward in his life. Reading the interview Joe gave to Comic Book resources, he came across as an arrogant egomaniac who could care less about its loyal readers and he could not give an compelling reason why he did what he did other than the sad and illogical reason that he and his fellow writers could not write for a marred Spider-Man which i and many fans find to be nothing more than a lie that he's using to not take responsibility for the fact that it has been his horrible editorial mandates that have hurt the book in its story telling and its coherency. This has nothing to do with the new writers coming to "Brand New Day", its about telling Joe Quesada that he was wrong and I'm going to vote with my wallet to not support what he did to the character and its loyal fans. It has nothing to do with the new guys coming in, its has to do with the horrible raw deal that Joe Quesada gave to the long time fans and their favorite character. Speaking as a fan who has collected Spider-Man for about 25 years, what Quesada did was not only a slap in the face to long time readers but disgraceful as well to a well beloved character who emotionally blackmailed his wife and makes a deal with the devil because he’s too much coward to face his responsibility and move forward in his life. Reading the interview Joe gave to Comic Book resources, he came across as an arrogant egomaniac who could care less about its loyal readers and he could not give an compelling reason why he did what he did other than the sad and illogical reason that he and his fellow writers could not write for a marred Spider-Man which i and many fans find to be nothing more than a lie that he’s using to not take responsibility for the fact that it has been his horrible editorial mandates that have hurt the book in its story telling and its coherency.

This has nothing to do with the new writers coming to “Brand New Day”, its about telling Joe Quesada that he was wrong and I’m going to vote with my wallet to not support what he did to the character and its loyal fans.

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