Comments on: All You Need to Know – Thor #4

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:33:43 +0000

I agree that this stuff doesn’t really have much place in comics, let alone one about a superhero-fied Norse God of Thunder. I could buy it when JMS was whipping this sort of thing out in Supreme Power and Squadron Supreme, since that’s kind of expected when you have a book that boils down to “What if superheroes were in a realer world?”

Same time, though, I’m not sure we can go back to those halcyon days when Thor was running around fighting trolls and stuff.

By: Mark Engblom

Mark Engblom — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:15:50 +0000

"He should be about might and magic, epic tales of valor and destruction, things that make our lives small in comparison and let us dream of better worlds and high heroes than a mere mortal could attain." Absolutely! Sad thing is, I knew the stories would be like this the second I heard JMS's name attached to the project. He did the same kind of low-wattage stories for his Fantastic Four run as well. The guy's definitely not suited for high adventure comics. What kind of hold does he have over the Marvel Powers That Be? Blackmail photos? I gave the issue bit of a whippin' the other day, too. Looks like I'll be dropping the title....at least until JMS moves on to yet another adventure hero to leech the fun out of.

By: admin

admin — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:21:02 +0000

Well said, Cap’n. Thanks.

By: Captain Qwert Jr

Captain Qwert Jr — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:26:29 +0000

“I liked the Katrina reference last issue, because as exploitative as it sounds I think it put guest star Iron Man and the whole Civil War nonsense in perspective by calling to attention the sort of issues heroes should really concern themselves with … rather than registration, etc.”

First, you can just as easily turn it around and blame Thor for every death caused by a hurricane, tornado, or other meteorological phenomena.

Secondly, the problems you call trivial, are only trivial to you because they only occur in comics. To those in comics, they are very real. For example, far more people have been killed by, say, Magneto than Katrina in the Marvel U. How are you supposed to have the characters react, when you confront them with this? Will you have them diminish the real world or themselves?

The Superhero genre is a romantic one, and romances can’t endure much reality without falling to pieces.

By: admin

admin — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:05:37 +0000

Sure, it brings attention and puts things in perspective regarding superheroic priorities, but I don’t want to think of Spider-Man, Iron Man and Captain America (who may or may not have have been dead at the time) as schmucks for not running to the scene to save the innocent people who died horrifically and who are currently not saving the people who still don’t have a home and are suffering from the government’s mistake. This is something I want to take care of in the real world, and the fictional world should be saved for things that really do need someone with superpowers to handle. Otherwise, Iron Man looks like a chump not for selling out his friends, but for not being a hero for the people reading the comic, a hallmark of Marvel as I see it.
Again, this is why I like talking comics and not politics. If I misspeak or chose the wrong word on a comic, I just get harassed nerd-ically. =)
But again, if you liked the first three issues, maybe Thor is not as bad as I make it out to be. It’s not for me personally, and I know I want a lot from that book and that’s it’s mostly my disappointment on what I’m missing on the line. JMS doesn’t go in depth on the issue, just generalizes how bad it all is and then sends Thor home. Maybe this will bring people’s attention to Darfur?

By: The Fortress Keeper

The Fortress Keeper — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:01:59 +0000

Oh dear.

I liked the Katrina reference last issue, because as exploitative as it sounds I think it put guest star Iron Man and the whole Civil War nonsense in perspective by calling to attention the sort of issues heroes should really concern themselves with … rather than registration, etc.

Plus, if it reminded a few Marvel zombies out there that New Orleans is STILL a mess and maybe prompt somebody to educate themselves on the situation and possibly do something … well, we can always hope, right?

But two issues in a row? And upping the ante by going, I presume, to Darfur???? That is substituting pontificating for storytelling, and super-heroes aren’t really the best forum for delving into such issues in depth.

I liked the first three issues, so I will read this. But if it is as bad as you say, I may be jumping ship.