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	<title>Comments on: Wedding of the- Oh, Who Are We Kidding?</title>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/07/27/wedding-of-the-oh-who-are-we-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-1164</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loves me some Frank Cho, but that cover is not one of his better pieces, and coloring SURE doesn&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loves me some Frank Cho, but that cover is not one of his better pieces, and coloring SURE doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to know where the hell Carol Danvers is going in the middle of a wedding celebration.  Her stance looks very...&quot;LOOK AT ME!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to know where the hell Carol Danvers is going in the middle of a wedding celebration.  Her stance looks very&#8230;&#8221;LOOK AT ME!!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/07/27/wedding-of-the-oh-who-are-we-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-1148</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100littledolls:  Well... Storm hasn&#039;t had as consistant a costume as Black Panther has, but you know... it&#039;s his wedding.  He could have had at least a neck thingie or maybe a headdress or something to jazz him up.  She&#039;s decked out to the nines, making T&#039;Challa look like he just sort of went in with whatever he had on.  It&#039;s a small thing, I know but...

Mister Fanboy: Two votes for T&#039;Challa&#039;s mom!  And wouldn&#039;t it have been nice to have had some momentous words for such a momentous occasion?  Something for, if not the bride and groom, but the people to hear as a declaration of their unity and all the good that is going to come from it?  

Lea:  On the cover, you know... Frank Cho&#039;s a sweatheart but there is something off about the whole thing.  The first thing I noted coloringwise was how much Storm sort of fades off into the bg, but then I shoo my head, thinking I was just being too harsh.  

Philip: Could be that, too.  Just a weird phrase.  As if... maybe the book had been written kind of quickly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100littledolls:  Well&#8230; Storm hasn&#8217;t had as consistant a costume as Black Panther has, but you know&#8230; it&#8217;s his wedding.  He could have had at least a neck thingie or maybe a headdress or something to jazz him up.  She&#8217;s decked out to the nines, making T&#8217;Challa look like he just sort of went in with whatever he had on.  It&#8217;s a small thing, I know but&#8230;</p>
<p>Mister Fanboy: Two votes for T&#8217;Challa&#8217;s mom!  And wouldn&#8217;t it have been nice to have had some momentous words for such a momentous occasion?  Something for, if not the bride and groom, but the people to hear as a declaration of their unity and all the good that is going to come from it?  </p>
<p>Lea:  On the cover, you know&#8230; Frank Cho&#8217;s a sweatheart but there is something off about the whole thing.  The first thing I noted coloringwise was how much Storm sort of fades off into the bg, but then I shoo my head, thinking I was just being too harsh.  </p>
<p>Philip: Could be that, too.  Just a weird phrase.  As if&#8230; maybe the book had been written kind of quickly?</p>
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		<title>By: philip</title>
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		<dc:creator>philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Luke Cage explains that Mr. Bradley is the ‘first me’, I guess meaning black superhero.

I took it more to mean that he was the first black guy the government experimented on who got superpowers as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Luke Cage explains that Mr. Bradley is the ‘first me’, I guess meaning black superhero.</p>
<p>I took it more to mean that he was the first black guy the government experimented on who got superpowers as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Lea</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/07/27/wedding-of-the-oh-who-are-we-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Lea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing that&#039;s a spirit panther, because it sure as heck doesn&#039;t convince me it&#039;s a panther. It&#039;s all weird and lumpy. Maybe it&#039;s naked, too.

I&#039;m with 100LittleDolls. Why isn&#039;t T&#039;challah in his ridiculous gauzy wedding togs? Because he wouldn&#039;t look like Black Panther without them? Would he not look like himself without them because no one&#039;s bothered to show us anything about him?
It&#039;s HIS book, too, I think he&#039;d be recognizable next to Storm. I think readers would get that. 

And I&#039;m going to pick on the coloring. Nothing in that coloring gives the composition depth. It looks like the foreground characters are giants and the FF are midgets.

Lastly, how about the fact that two white guys are dominating the cover of the issue about the two black people getting married? OOOPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing that&#8217;s a spirit panther, because it sure as heck doesn&#8217;t convince me it&#8217;s a panther. It&#8217;s all weird and lumpy. Maybe it&#8217;s naked, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with 100LittleDolls. Why isn&#8217;t T&#8217;challah in his ridiculous gauzy wedding togs? Because he wouldn&#8217;t look like Black Panther without them? Would he not look like himself without them because no one&#8217;s bothered to show us anything about him?<br />
It&#8217;s HIS book, too, I think he&#8217;d be recognizable next to Storm. I think readers would get that. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m going to pick on the coloring. Nothing in that coloring gives the composition depth. It looks like the foreground characters are giants and the FF are midgets.</p>
<p>Lastly, how about the fact that two white guys are dominating the cover of the issue about the two black people getting married? OOOPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Fanboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister Fanboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the woman on the cover was maybe T&#039;Challa&#039;s mom, though I don&#039;t have the issue in front of me.  I was perturbed that we didn&#039;t see Bishop in the issue, even though he&#039;s on the cover.  And what about Rogue.  Why wasn&#039;t she at the wedding?  Conversely, at least Prof X was there (I was wondering if he&#039;d go off to space before or after the ceremony).  And then there was the ceremony -- very anticlimactic.  I understood the need for the whole panther ceremony to go along with the whole mythology, but then they cut to his mom officiating the ceremony who says like one line and, voila, it&#039;s done.  Huh?  I don&#039;t expect a Western-type ceremony, but something more than that.  Worst of all, the Cap/Iron man&#039;s scenes were so forced it was nauseating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the woman on the cover was maybe T&#8217;Challa&#8217;s mom, though I don&#8217;t have the issue in front of me.  I was perturbed that we didn&#8217;t see Bishop in the issue, even though he&#8217;s on the cover.  And what about Rogue.  Why wasn&#8217;t she at the wedding?  Conversely, at least Prof X was there (I was wondering if he&#8217;d go off to space before or after the ceremony).  And then there was the ceremony &#8212; very anticlimactic.  I understood the need for the whole panther ceremony to go along with the whole mythology, but then they cut to his mom officiating the ceremony who says like one line and, voila, it&#8217;s done.  Huh?  I don&#8217;t expect a Western-type ceremony, but something more than that.  Worst of all, the Cap/Iron man&#8217;s scenes were so forced it was nauseating.</p>
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		<title>By: 100littledolls</title>
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		<dc:creator>100littledolls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah, it sounds like a trainwreck.

It also kind of pisses me off that Storm is wearing her wedding dress on the cover, but Black Panther gets to wear his costume.  It furthers the unbalanced power dynamic that you were talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, it sounds like a trainwreck.</p>
<p>It also kind of pisses me off that Storm is wearing her wedding dress on the cover, but Black Panther gets to wear his costume.  It furthers the unbalanced power dynamic that you were talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Sims: Scholars can look back and note the omission in the original!  Though... it really doesn&#039;t have much to do with Civil War.  Because when Captain America and Iron Man aren&#039;t there, funny how no one fights about it.  Instigators.

CalvinPitt:  Ah!  Woman looks good for her age!  Mom would make sense sense as she was presiding over the ceremony.  And no, sir.  Bishop does not cry.  But that might be the &#039;Single Native American Tear&#039; in honor of Forge&#039;s absence.  It doesn&#039;t even look connected to the rest of the picture, does it?  Like Frank Cho kind of tacked him in there.  Sad, really.

CWR: Wow, thanks for the linkback!  And it would says it&#039;s always a bad day for women in comics, this is simply a missed opportunity.

Chris Laffoon: I will fully admit I didn&#039;t read all the tie ins to this issue.  After all, the title of the site is &#039;Snap Judgments&#039;.  But I would doubt that there is a mention in any of those books as to why the   major socio-political aspects of the wedding got so little time in the book and why Oprah is the most popular person on the planet.  I haven&#039;t been sure if the writer&#039;s playing this seriously or with more humor intended, so maybe I should check out the tie in books.  Thanks for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Sims: Scholars can look back and note the omission in the original!  Though&#8230; it really doesn&#8217;t have much to do with Civil War.  Because when Captain America and Iron Man aren&#8217;t there, funny how no one fights about it.  Instigators.</p>
<p>CalvinPitt:  Ah!  Woman looks good for her age!  Mom would make sense sense as she was presiding over the ceremony.  And no, sir.  Bishop does not cry.  But that might be the &#8216;Single Native American Tear&#8217; in honor of Forge&#8217;s absence.  It doesn&#8217;t even look connected to the rest of the picture, does it?  Like Frank Cho kind of tacked him in there.  Sad, really.</p>
<p>CWR: Wow, thanks for the linkback!  And it would says it&#8217;s always a bad day for women in comics, this is simply a missed opportunity.</p>
<p>Chris Laffoon: I will fully admit I didn&#8217;t read all the tie ins to this issue.  After all, the title of the site is &#8216;Snap Judgments&#8217;.  But I would doubt that there is a mention in any of those books as to why the   major socio-political aspects of the wedding got so little time in the book and why Oprah is the most popular person on the planet.  I haven&#8217;t been sure if the writer&#8217;s playing this seriously or with more humor intended, so maybe I should check out the tie in books.  Thanks for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Laffoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Laffoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah..uh..sounds like you should have read the rest.  You know like all the other issues building up to this.  Maybe you would have understood a few things...but then again maybe not.  You&#039;re allowed to jump to whatever misfounded conclusions you want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah..uh..sounds like you should have read the rest.  You know like all the other issues building up to this.  Maybe you would have understood a few things&#8230;but then again maybe not.  You&#8217;re allowed to jump to whatever misfounded conclusions you want to.</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/07/27/wedding-of-the-oh-who-are-we-kidding/comment-page-1/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Meanwhile, Carla, comic salesperson, takes apart Black Panther #18, the so-called &#8220;Wedding of the Century&#8221;.  I spent a good amount of time trying to figure out who was that woman in green behind them sort of… off center. Tacked in. My guess? Photon. But really, who’s looking at her when Storm’s enormous breasteses are front and center? I know she has a history of ‘warm weather, less clothing’ but on that cover it looks, as one person next to me at lunch, ‘hooker-y’. Yes, I know, soap opera clothing designer or something-something, great. Whatever. Just give the woman a break. And a neckline. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Meanwhile, Carla, comic salesperson, takes apart Black Panther #18, the so-called &#8220;Wedding of the Century&#8221;.  I spent a good amount of time trying to figure out who was that woman in green behind them sort of… off center. Tacked in. My guess? Photon. But really, who’s looking at her when Storm’s enormous breasteses are front and center? I know she has a history of ‘warm weather, less clothing’ but on that cover it looks, as one person next to me at lunch, ‘hooker-y’. Yes, I know, soap opera clothing designer or something-something, great. Whatever. Just give the woman a break. And a neckline. [...]</p>
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