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	<description>no, really, there are some comics you really should read</description>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a comic shop and am the only female employee. I like to have fun answering the phone:  uh, hi....do you anything about comics? Yes, I do...well, ummm....maybe I&#039;ll try back. I feel your pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a comic shop and am the only female employee. I like to have fun answering the phone:  uh, hi&#8230;.do you anything about comics? Yes, I do&#8230;well, ummm&#8230;.maybe I&#8217;ll try back. I feel your pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Adarael</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Adarael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, to think that there are people out there who seem to believe that guys are the only ones that are safe to talk to.
Oh, no, wait, that&#039;s right. People are retarded by nature.

Just remember, however off-the-cuff &#039;Bows and Ponies&#039; was, it&#039;s now part of my vocabulary, and you can&#039;t have it back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, to think that there are people out there who seem to believe that guys are the only ones that are safe to talk to.<br />
Oh, no, wait, that&#8217;s right. People are retarded by nature.</p>
<p>Just remember, however off-the-cuff &#8216;Bows and Ponies&#8217; was, it&#8217;s now part of my vocabulary, and you can&#8217;t have it back.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Fumo</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Fumo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification and I&#039;m sorry for jumping to conclusions! I should know better than to post before taking time to check your other postings to get a better feel.

I definitely sympathise with being frustrated with people that don&#039;t want to leave their comfort zone. The opposite seems to also be true. Like people who will read a superhero horror book or superhero police procedural, but then refuses to try a normal horror or police book. Or guys who go running at the first sign of romance. It is a sad state of affairs when people assume that Love Hina is aimed at girls!

The thing with the parents is even worse! I really really hate stuff like that. Things are bad enough with media and peer pressure, we don&#039;t need parents enforcing stereotypes as well.

I&#039;m always so thankful for how open-minded my Mom was in raising me. I mean when I was young she said stuff like &quot;You know, if it turns out that you happen to be gay, I would be ok with that&quot;. It turns out that I wasn&#039;t, but it sure is nice not to have to worry about that before you get to the age where you&#039;d really know.

Anyway, I feel bad for people who limit themselves from trying the full range of guilty pleasures from Berserk to Swan (who can&#039;t get excited about ballet after reading Swan?). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification and I&#8217;m sorry for jumping to conclusions! I should know better than to post before taking time to check your other postings to get a better feel.</p>
<p>I definitely sympathise with being frustrated with people that don&#8217;t want to leave their comfort zone. The opposite seems to also be true. Like people who will read a superhero horror book or superhero police procedural, but then refuses to try a normal horror or police book. Or guys who go running at the first sign of romance. It is a sad state of affairs when people assume that Love Hina is aimed at girls!</p>
<p>The thing with the parents is even worse! I really really hate stuff like that. Things are bad enough with media and peer pressure, we don&#8217;t need parents enforcing stereotypes as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always so thankful for how open-minded my Mom was in raising me. I mean when I was young she said stuff like &#8220;You know, if it turns out that you happen to be gay, I would be ok with that&#8221;. It turns out that I wasn&#8217;t, but it sure is nice not to have to worry about that before you get to the age where you&#8217;d really know.</p>
<p>Anyway, I feel bad for people who limit themselves from trying the full range of guilty pleasures from Berserk to Swan (who can&#8217;t get excited about ballet after reading Swan?). <img src='http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn Fumo:  Then let me try and correct myself here:  I have a lot of love for manga, especially the shojo dramas, don&#039;t get me wrong.  And when last I checked the local Borders bookstores in town (we got 2!), a lot of the books (okay, at least the spines) tend to be that color of pink that catches the eye like the Barbie aisle at a toy store.  What I meant by the comment is that I know specific examples of girls who come into the store who want Girl Books(tm).  They don&#039;t want to look at Boy Books, they don&#039;t want to be varied and look into things like Angel Sanctuary and Fullmetal Alchemist.  They want Girl Books(tm).  They want a special place in the store for them and I&#039;m not even saying there&#039;s anything wrong with that.  There is so much variety to pictures-with-words-telling-stories (call it &#039;comics&#039; or &#039;manga&#039; or &#039;graphic novels&#039;, whathaveyou) and it&#039;s great... it&#039;s just that some people don&#039;t want that though.  Some people are just happy to be specific.  Sometimes it&#039;s not even a choice.  Parents will actively shoo their daughters away from Spider-Man with a derisive, &#039;That&#039;s a boy book&#039; and buy them Lizzie McGuire cine-manga.  It&#039;s not fair, it&#039;s not the rule, but there it is.  Some people don&#039;t vote either.  Whatcha gonna do?

And for my cutesy dollar, I&#039;d go with Angelic Layer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn Fumo:  Then let me try and correct myself here:  I have a lot of love for manga, especially the shojo dramas, don&#8217;t get me wrong.  And when last I checked the local Borders bookstores in town (we got 2!), a lot of the books (okay, at least the spines) tend to be that color of pink that catches the eye like the Barbie aisle at a toy store.  What I meant by the comment is that I know specific examples of girls who come into the store who want Girl Books(tm).  They don&#8217;t want to look at Boy Books, they don&#8217;t want to be varied and look into things like Angel Sanctuary and Fullmetal Alchemist.  They want Girl Books(tm).  They want a special place in the store for them and I&#8217;m not even saying there&#8217;s anything wrong with that.  There is so much variety to pictures-with-words-telling-stories (call it &#8216;comics&#8217; or &#8216;manga&#8217; or &#8216;graphic novels&#8217;, whathaveyou) and it&#8217;s great&#8230; it&#8217;s just that some people don&#8217;t want that though.  Some people are just happy to be specific.  Sometimes it&#8217;s not even a choice.  Parents will actively shoo their daughters away from Spider-Man with a derisive, &#8216;That&#8217;s a boy book&#8217; and buy them Lizzie McGuire cine-manga.  It&#8217;s not fair, it&#8217;s not the rule, but there it is.  Some people don&#8217;t vote either.  Whatcha gonna do?</p>
<p>And for my cutesy dollar, I&#8217;d go with Angelic Layer.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Fumo</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Fumo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good post, but I don&#039;t think this particular statement is really fair: &quot;Some fangirls really do just limit themselves to what they’re supposed to like and rather enjoy their little pink ghettos of manga ...&quot;

There&#039;s a pretty big range of titles in manga, even in the &quot;aimed at girls&quot; titles. Something like Cardcaptor Sakura is about as cutesy as possible, but then you have things like Angel Sanctuary with all the incest and violence. Plus all of the titles that have crossover into both sexes like Fullmetal Alchemist or Planetes.

I know it was just a throwaway comment, but it seems silly to categorize manga as a &quot;ghetto&quot; when the content and readership is so varied (taken in a broader sense, there&#039;s plenty of superheros in manga too).

Anyway, hopefully things will change over time. One of the local shops here has a female clerk and frequently more ladies buying comics than guys. I&#039;m sure she still has to deal with idiots at times, but hopefully that sort of environment helps a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good post, but I don&#8217;t think this particular statement is really fair: &#8220;Some fangirls really do just limit themselves to what they’re supposed to like and rather enjoy their little pink ghettos of manga &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pretty big range of titles in manga, even in the &#8220;aimed at girls&#8221; titles. Something like Cardcaptor Sakura is about as cutesy as possible, but then you have things like Angel Sanctuary with all the incest and violence. Plus all of the titles that have crossover into both sexes like Fullmetal Alchemist or Planetes.</p>
<p>I know it was just a throwaway comment, but it seems silly to categorize manga as a &#8220;ghetto&#8221; when the content and readership is so varied (taken in a broader sense, there&#8217;s plenty of superheros in manga too).</p>
<p>Anyway, hopefully things will change over time. One of the local shops here has a female clerk and frequently more ladies buying comics than guys. I&#8217;m sure she still has to deal with idiots at times, but hopefully that sort of environment helps a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Spider Totems and magical destiny and new guy just didn’t do it for me  (and still don’t actually, but that’s for another rant)&lt;/i&gt;

You are my total hero.

//\Oo/\\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Spider Totems and magical destiny and new guy just didn’t do it for me  (and still don’t actually, but that’s for another rant)</i></p>
<p>You are my total hero.</p>
<p>//\Oo/\\</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] XHTML       Girls Have It Tough   CATEGORY: LinkBlogging AUTHOR: Johanna POSTED: 2006-06-04 9:40 am   A woman who works at a comicstore reports on the everyday bias she experiences. I expect some (hopefully not many) guys to completely miss the point here or blame her for not standing up more strongly for her opinions. While some of us can do that (rowr!), not everyone should have to fight to simply be treated equally with respect or even just not to be ignored. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] XHTML       Girls Have It Tough   CATEGORY: LinkBlogging AUTHOR: Johanna POSTED: 2006-06-04 9:40 am   A woman who works at a comicstore reports on the everyday bias she experiences. I expect some (hopefully not many) guys to completely miss the point here or blame her for not standing up more strongly for her opinions. While some of us can do that (rowr!), not everyone should have to fight to simply be treated equally with respect or even just not to be ignored. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eyeball Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyeball Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 19:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Checked back.  

Glad to hear I am still remembered.  I still think of Metro fondly from time to time, after all I got four good years out of that store.  And I started there just at the time I was getting back into comic collecting after about a decade-long dry spell, so Metro will always have a special significance to me.  But I&#039;ve been lucky enough to find a really good store no matter where I&#039;ve lived.  

Hope I didn&#039;t set back your Constantine collecting too much.  Tiny world indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checked back.  </p>
<p>Glad to hear I am still remembered.  I still think of Metro fondly from time to time, after all I got four good years out of that store.  And I started there just at the time I was getting back into comic collecting after about a decade-long dry spell, so Metro will always have a special significance to me.  But I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to find a really good store no matter where I&#8217;ve lived.  </p>
<p>Hope I didn&#8217;t set back your Constantine collecting too much.  Tiny world indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 04:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, we never gave chocolate...
I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re going to check back to this but I  am entirely chargrinned that I thought back to &#039;that ol&#039; John Constantine customer&#039; when I was resorting the TPs a couple days ago.
Tiny comic book loving world, this is. =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, we never gave chocolate&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re going to check back to this but I  am entirely chargrinned that I thought back to &#8216;that ol&#8217; John Constantine customer&#8217; when I was resorting the TPs a couple days ago.<br />
Tiny comic book loving world, this is. =D</p>
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		<title>By: Eyeball Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.elegantmess.net/snap/2006/05/22/ask-your-local-girl/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyeball Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to go to UCSB, so of course at the time I shopped at Metro.  I think, from this story, that I just figured out who you are.  I was the guy who used your store to start my Hellblazer collection, and was competing with you for the back issues.  At least, you&#039;d always make a comment to that effect when I brought a hefty pile of them up to the checkout.  Ah, memories.  

As for the subject at hand, my current local comic shop here on the East coast is wonderfully progressive.  In addition to the wife of the owner, who co-runs the place, there are two more female employees who work there and from what I&#039;ve seen most of the regulars treat them with respect.  The female employees are every bit as knowledgeable and up-to-date as their male counterparts, and I have no reservations turning to them for advice.  I also consider the store to be much more welcoming than the average comic shop.  It&#039;s very clean and well-lit.  There is a big all-ages section prominently displayed right at the front of the store.  Also, they gave me a big box of chocolates for the holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to go to UCSB, so of course at the time I shopped at Metro.  I think, from this story, that I just figured out who you are.  I was the guy who used your store to start my Hellblazer collection, and was competing with you for the back issues.  At least, you&#8217;d always make a comment to that effect when I brought a hefty pile of them up to the checkout.  Ah, memories.  </p>
<p>As for the subject at hand, my current local comic shop here on the East coast is wonderfully progressive.  In addition to the wife of the owner, who co-runs the place, there are two more female employees who work there and from what I&#8217;ve seen most of the regulars treat them with respect.  The female employees are every bit as knowledgeable and up-to-date as their male counterparts, and I have no reservations turning to them for advice.  I also consider the store to be much more welcoming than the average comic shop.  It&#8217;s very clean and well-lit.  There is a big all-ages section prominently displayed right at the front of the store.  Also, they gave me a big box of chocolates for the holidays.</p>
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